Message boards : Number crunching : Validation / Credit
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[AF>Amis des Lapins] Phil1966Send message Joined: 24 Jan 17 Posts: 9 Credit: 756,604,433 RAC: 2,079,181 |
Hello, sorry if my question has already been asked elsewhere. How is it that calculations remain stuck in "validation pending" status when two results have been returned for several hours? Thank you |
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Sergei Chernykh Project administrator Project developer Send message Joined: 5 Jan 17 Posts: 597 Credit: 72,451,573 RAC: 0 |
Completed tasks pile up when they arrive faster than the server can process them. This is what's happening now - it's 5+ hours backlog at the moment. |
Tigers_DaveSend message Joined: 26 Oct 22 Posts: 95 Credit: 22,728,901,291 RAC: 9,102,508 |
Hello, sorry if my question has already been asked elsewhere. It looks like a BOINCStats challenge issued today has triggered a significant increase in crunching on behalf of Amicable: https://www.boincstats.com/stats/challenge/team/chat/1132
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[AF>Amis des Lapins] Phil1966Send message Joined: 24 Jan 17 Posts: 9 Credit: 756,604,433 RAC: 2,079,181 |
Completed tasks pile up when they arrive faster than the server can process them. This is what's happening now - it's 5+ hours backlog at the moment. Thank You |
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Speedy Send message Joined: 6 Jun 17 Posts: 131 Credit: 1,178,809,642 RAC: 1,816,774 |
Completed tasks pile up when they arrive faster than the server can process them. This is what's happening now - it's 5+ hours backlog at the moment. Thank you for the update. Hopefully with the server piled up we won't miss out on credit because of the deadline being missed? I feel this is an unlikely scenario |
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nekomi_ch Send message Joined: 5 Apr 25 Posts: 12 Credit: 15,326,746 RAC: 190,733 |
Completed tasks pile up when they arrive faster than the server can process them. This is what's happening now - it's 5+ hours backlog at the moment. Nope it is not getting any better, its almost a whole day now |
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Speedy Send message Joined: 6 Jun 17 Posts: 131 Credit: 1,178,809,642 RAC: 1,816,774 |
Nope it is not getting any better, its almost a whole day now No it is only 5.02 hours behind from my perspective. Where are you getting the information that it is almost a whole day behind? I do agree my pending validations are over 400 at the moment Over the past 20 hours there has been an increase of nearly 3 TFLOPS https://grafana.kiska.pw/d/boinc/boinc?orgId=1&var-project=Amicable which will explain the reason for comment. above regarding increase to pending results |
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nekomi_ch Send message Joined: 5 Apr 25 Posts: 12 Credit: 15,326,746 RAC: 190,733 |
What I am saying is that it took more than 5 hours after task submission before it was validated. |
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bluestang Send message Joined: 26 Apr 18 Posts: 26 Credit: 5,601,002,798 RAC: 9,207,553 |
There is a Sprint challenge for Formula BOINC that started on the 12th, so also could be likely it was an influx of people dropping their bunkers when Amicable wasn't picked for the Sprint. |
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Speedy Send message Joined: 6 Jun 17 Posts: 131 Credit: 1,178,809,642 RAC: 1,816,774 |
Appreciate the information. |
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pututu Send message Joined: 6 Feb 17 Posts: 12 Credit: 250,494,047 RAC: 317,663 |
FYI, have a bunch of work units pending validation since Mar 4th. By tomorrow, these will be exactly 3 weeks. Here are some of them from one of my PCs. https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/workunit.php?wuid=59175350 https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/workunit.php?wuid=59186493 https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/workunit.php?wuid=59195266 Some of my wingmen's PCs are even older. https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/workunit.php?wuid=59097636 https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/workunit.php?wuid=59098305 |
TamagochSend message Joined: 3 Aug 20 Posts: 3 Credit: 106,186,595 RAC: 292,198 |
It would be epic not to get any credit for the short time of a sprint. 117k WUs to validate having only 9k in progress - that looks not optimistic. |
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Sergei Chernykh Project administrator Project developer Send message Joined: 5 Jan 17 Posts: 597 Credit: 72,451,573 RAC: 0 |
Running a sprint without asking the project administrator first means it's their problem now, not my problem. The backlog is clearing now and will clear in 2-3 days. |
TamagochSend message Joined: 3 Aug 20 Posts: 3 Credit: 106,186,595 RAC: 292,198 |
Agreed. I'll post something about that on their forum later. Thanks for the info. It should be an interesting sprint anyway - racing with the validator )) I'm in. |
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KetamiNO [YouTube] Send message Joined: 30 Jan 17 Posts: 1 Credit: 17,100,334,961 RAC: 39,616,161 |
Hi, could I ask what might have caused the sudden increase in task computation time? On my systems, it went from 480 seconds to 2475 seconds on an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Super, and from 88 to 290 seconds on an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090. I’m seeing the same sharp increase in runtime across other systems as well. |
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Sergei Chernykh Project administrator Project developer Send message Joined: 5 Jan 17 Posts: 597 Credit: 72,451,573 RAC: 0 |
I increased task size 4 times to reduce the load on the server. Points per task are also increased 4 times. |
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Stiwi Send message Joined: 7 Apr 18 Posts: 3 Credit: 180,694,269 RAC: 601,982 |
Hi, could I ask what might have caused the sudden increase in task computation time? https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/forum_thread.php?id=340&postid=2318#2318 The "waiting for validation" number is going down steadily now. I've re-enabled task generation, but all tasks will be 4 times bigger now (and 4x the points) to reduce the load on the server. |
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Speedy Send message Joined: 6 Jun 17 Posts: 131 Credit: 1,178,809,642 RAC: 1,816,774 |
Hi, could I ask what might have caused the sudden increase in task computation time? For what it's worth I am getting around 5 minutes 13 seconds 313 seconds limiting my 4090 to 320 W |
Michael H.W. WeberSend message Joined: 27 Apr 18 Posts: 2 Credit: 696,225,301 RAC: 6,712,179 |
Sorry, but it seems there is still something strange with the task validation: I have completed around 800 GPU tasks in the past 2 days using a Blackwell 6000 Pro, an RTX 3080 and an AMD R9700 AI Pro. Of all of these tasks, only a single one has been (successfully) validated - the rest sits in the queue waiting for validation. WHILE MY TEAMMATES CONSTANTLY RECEIVE CREDITS, I just see the credit for that single WU. Somehow it seems that this contradicts a random task validation approach. Moreover, it indicates that not a single task of these itself is a validation WU of someone else's task - statistically quite unlikely as well... So, what is going on? Did I overlook something? Michael. President of Rechenkraft.net e.V. |
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Sergei Chernykh Project administrator Project developer Send message Joined: 5 Jan 17 Posts: 597 Credit: 72,451,573 RAC: 0 |
Validation is not random, but there is no fixed order and it's unpredictable. Until the backlog clears, things like this can happen. |
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