Posts by Speedy

51) Message boards : Number crunching : Prime Numbers (Message 1272)
Posted 28 Oct 2019 by Speedy
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If it takes 1 hour to compute prime table, you're doing something seriously wrong. It usually takes no more than 1 minute and is done on a single CPU core, then it starts using all CPU cores, so it's easy to notice how much time it takes.

Thanks Alan for your detailed description below. I honestly cannot see task processing been increased a a lot because of the message above.
52) Message boards : Number crunching : Prime Numbers (Message 1268)
Posted 28 Oct 2019 by Speedy
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however, it will really speed up 10^21 and allow getting to 10^22 much faster.

Alan how much quicker do you think it would allow us to move onto 10^22? I am not sure that speed is the name of the game here
53) Message boards : Number crunching : Waiting on memory (Message 1199)
Posted 18 Sep 2019 by Speedy
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Here`s a strange 1, Amicable was running fine but then reinstalled win 10 (getting rid of bloated system, not changed anything in bios etc) and now getting "waiting on memory" message in Boinc status. Memory at 7% in task manager. Only way to get it running is to abort that task :( . Anybody any idea what i have done or failed to install yet?

Edit: ah think I found it, in Disk and Memory it was set to just use 50% when computer in use lol, woops

Yes when I read your post that is what I was going to suggest. Pleased you managed to sort out by yourself
54) Message boards : Number crunching : Maximum Prime Size for Large Prime Workunits (Message 1175)
Posted 20 Jun 2019 by Speedy
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It's great to see the speed up in CPU time. I am deviating slightly with this question but feel it still fits in this thread. Is the server status page still accurate? It says we will be finished in October 91.4824% average of 3.88 hours. I thought with faster work units this would of been August or September maybe not?
55) Message boards : Number crunching : 10^21 (Message 1127)
Posted 8 Apr 2019 by Speedy
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while 10^20 is finished by those who run GPU?

The search for 10^20 is currently 88.0658% complete. Almost all of the work is being done by the CPU. It takes over an hour to run one it on a 1070 TI
56) Message boards : Number crunching : Amicable Numbers has slowed down (Message 1072)
Posted 25 Jan 2019 by Speedy
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It is no new thread !!

Amicalble Numbers slow down about 30-40 % an THIS is the thread "Amicable Numbers slow down" !!!!

Does anybody know a reason for the slow down ??

Work always takes longer to run when nearing the end of a number search.

Here is an explanation I could find from lower in thread from Sergei as to why tasks are taking longer to run
57) Message boards : Random stuff : Project Status Page (Message 1065)
Posted 21 Jan 2019 by Speedy
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I7-5960X is one of the reference CPUs here: https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/gpu_list.php. Those numbers might be a bit outdated because they were measured for the search up to 264. I'll update them in a few days.

I understand things move quickly in the technology world. I was just looking at the list you gave me a link above and realised the closest CPU to my I 7 5960 X is Intel Core i7-4770K (4 cores, 8 threads, 3.9 GHz) Is there a particular reason why it has been removed?
Thanks in advanced for your answer
58) Message boards : Number crunching : Amicable Numbers has slowed down (Message 1058)
Posted 14 Jan 2019 by Speedy
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Feels like a new thread, mate. This is a little spammy and out place in this thread imo. :)

Fairpoint if I have any issues I will post in a more appropriate place. :)
59) Message boards : Number crunching : Amicable Numbers has slowed down (Message 1042)
Posted 29 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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I am aware that tasks are a lot slower now but is anybody else having an issue receiving GPU work for Nvidia?

Turns out I was able to get some for my 7970
60) Message boards : Number crunching : Amicable Numbers has slowed down (Message 1041)
Posted 29 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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I am aware that tasks are a lot slower now but is anybody else having an issue receiving GPU work for Nvidia?

Turns out I was able to get some for my 7970
61) Message boards : Number crunching : Amicable Numbers has slowed down (Message 1040)
Posted 29 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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I am aware that tasks are a lot slower now but is anybody else having an issue receiving GPU work for Nvidia?
62) Message boards : Number crunching : Countermeasures for Increased CPU Time (Message 1029)
Posted 15 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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Good Day. Created the app_config.xml file as described, saved it as an xml file (using Word), verified name/extension was correct, placed in the amicable sub-directory of the Boinc projects parent directory, had the Boinc manager read the config file, and received this notice/message:

Missing <app_config> in app_config.xml

Also checked and saw only once instance of amicable tasks running, not two as I wanted, and verified utilization was still in the 65%-75% range

Any suggestions?

Thank you for any assistance or insights offered.

Paste the following information into you're app_info.XML file in the project folder. If you want to only use one the CPU core to process 2 tasks change CPU usage from1 to .5 I think the reason why you were getting message missing <app_info> is because you are missing that tag of your file. Hope this helps

<app_config>
   <app>
      <name>amicable_10_20</name>
            <gpu_versions>
          <gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage>
          <cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
      </gpu_versions>
    </app>
</app_config>
63) Message boards : Number crunching : Countermeasures for Increased CPU Time (Message 1025)
Posted 14 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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The GTX 1080 ti and RTX 2080 ti both have 11GB RAM, but only 4GB shows up in BOINC data ;)

Fair point I forgot about that. Same as the 1070 TI at his 8 GB but only 4 GB shows
64) Message boards : Number crunching : Countermeasures for Increased CPU Time (Message 1023)
Posted 13 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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Thank you for sharing this. I am running 2 tasks on my (aging!) 7970 as GPU utilization had dropped to ~93%.

Matt I had a look at your tasks. In terms of run-time am I correct in saying that you are returning 2 results roughly every 45 minutes on your 7970?


That is correct. GPU is a 7970 @ 985Mhz/1425mhz

Thank you for this information
65) Message boards : Number crunching : Countermeasures for Increased CPU Time (Message 1022)
Posted 13 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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Hi, for exemple i run now six task , also i try seven but system was bit laggy .
six task 0.16 about 9700mb average gpu ram usage totall..
but today if you have more gpu ram on your gf. card ,you can run more tasks

I am not sure how you can run 6 tasks on GPU as none of your GPU's have got 9700 MB of GPU RAM
66) Message boards : Number crunching : Countermeasures for Increased CPU Time (Message 1018)
Posted 13 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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Thank you for sharing this. I am running 2 tasks on my (aging!) 7970 as GPU utilization had dropped to ~93%.

Matt I had a look at your tasks. In terms of run-time am I correct in saying that you are returning 2 results roughly every 45 minutes on your 7970?
67) Message boards : Number crunching : Amicable Numbers has slowed down (Message 1017)
Posted 11 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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At the bottom of the Server Status, it shows the the runtime of the last 100 tasks --- 1.50 hours average, 0.07 hours minimum and 81.97 hours maximum.

Can the runtime be classified by CPU vs. GPU?

Can the runtime be classified even further, such as:
- CPU with 2 CPUs, CPU with 3 CPUs, CPU with 4 CPUs, etc.
- AMD/ATI GPU with 2 CPUs, AMD/ATI GPU with 3 CPUs, etc.
- NVIDIA GPU with 2 CPUs, NVIDIA GPU with 3 CPUs, etc.

Have you had a look at https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/gpu_list.php? You can find CPUs at the bottom of the list
68) Message boards : Number crunching : Amicable Numbers has slowed down (Message 1015)
Posted 9 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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I checked "good" and "bad" WUs in profiler, and got this for "good" WU:
InitialCheck128() = 22.36% of execution time
CheckPairInternal() = 72.05% of execution time

and this for "bad" WU:
InitialCheck128() = 83.53% of execution time
CheckPairInternal() = 15.37% of execution time

It looks like some number ranges require much more time to switch from slow 128-bit trial divisions to fast 64-bit code. There is nothing wrong with the code itself, it's just my assumption that all "large prime" ranges are the same turned out to be wrong. What's interesting is that OpenCL version doesn't suffer from this problem - probably because they're 32-bit natively and difference between 64 and 128-bit code is much smaller there.

I'm just curious, are you able to tell us how long a good work unit takes to run verse a bad one? Thanks
69) Message boards : Number crunching : Amicable Numbers has slowed down (Message 1013)
Posted 9 Dec 2018 by Speedy
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OK. I've had enough! In the past, and for several months, I was processing 14-15 CPU work units per day at 6836.19 credits per unit. Then, around the 20 Oct, my performance dropped to 6-7 units per day. Then, around 19 Nov, my performance jumped back to 14-15 units per day. Then, a couple of days later, it dropped back to 5-6 units per day. Then, about Dec 6, it jumped back to 14-15 units per day for a few hours, then drop down to 1-2 units per day where it has remained. My repeated requested for assistance have come and gone and I am no longer going to donate my computer time and electricity for 1-2 units per day at 6836.19 credits per unit! Since all of this has occurred with no changes to my system hardware or software, I have to wonder if Amicable Numbers is suffering hacker attacks from idiots that are trying to get rich quick by gaming the crypto coin systems and creating issues for everyone else? But until I get word this issue is resolved, I am forced to abandon this project.

I understand where you are coming from in regards to runtime. To give you an idea I have a 1070 TI tasks used to run around 8 minutes they have increased now to 9.5 to 10 minutes I am running one task at a time. Load is still peaking at around 89 % will not load drops below 50% I may look at running 2 tasks at a time to increase the load
70) Message boards : Number crunching : Massive Improvement to Runtimes With New Nvidia Driver (Message 858)
Posted 19 Jun 2018 by Speedy
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For anyone interested on a Windows 10 machine using the driver discussed on a 970 the tasks take 17 minutes 17 seconds to complete
71) Message boards : News : GPU version fix (Message 828)
Posted 8 May 2018 by Speedy
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We caught up more than a month ago, it's all new work now.

So we did pleased to hear that you got all the results you needed rechecked
72) Message boards : News : GPU version fix (Message 826)
Posted 7 May 2018 by Speedy
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Good news: I was able to narrow down the invalid work units range to only last 9 days after further analysis of this bug.

This is great news. Is there a way to tell if we are running old work units or have we caught up with processing old work?
73) Message boards : Random stuff : Project Status Page (Message 820)
Posted 1 May 2018 by Speedy
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I7-5960X is one of the reference CPUs here: https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/gpu_list.php. Those numbers might be a bit outdated because they were measured for the search up to 264. I'll update them in a few days.

Thank you for the information. I never thought to look their
74) Message boards : Random stuff : Project Status Page (Message 818)
Posted 1 May 2018 by Speedy
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I see this as an appropriate place to ask this question. Is it possible for you to add an average speed equivalent for Intel? I am using and I 7 5960 X at 3 gigahertz 8 cores/8 threads I can return work in Run time 51 min 58 sec CPU time 13 hours 37 min 49 sec . Thanks in advanced there is no pressure
75) Message boards : News : Finish line of the current search and next steps (Message 585)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Speedy
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I am curious to know if anyone knows how many more tasks there are for 2_64? Before it is finished

Approx. 83,000 work units left, or 4 weeks more work at current speed.

P.S. Server status page

Thanks for rough estimation of work units left.
I agree it would be a nice feature to be able to know how many work units are remaining. Or maybe even a mini had been returned in the last 24 hours. A nice touch with the number of hosts active in the last 24 hours
76) Message boards : News : Finish line of the current search and next steps (Message 582)
Posted 19 Jul 2017 by Speedy
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I am curious to know if anyone knows how many more tasks there are for 2_64? Before it is finished


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