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Message 43 - Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 2:26:36 UTC

It would be nice to see some Badges on this Project!
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Message 45 - Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 9:16:56 UTC - in response to Message 43.  

There are standard "Top 1%", "Top 5%" and "Top 25%" badges on the project now. Do you have any suggestions for other badges?
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Message 47 - Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 16:28:12 UTC - in response to Message 45.  
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For me the "Top 1%", "Top 5%" and "Top 25%" badges really are not Project but only BOINC badges.
I like running Programs to collected Badge to place on my BOINC Banner and the ones you a referencing are give only when running a project.
Then in turn shows no past and in turn to goal to the next badge, call it a payment in a since for the Elect Cost.

This is where we like to see Badges


Thanks for any thing that this Project may come up with, you have a lot of members that also make badges for other BOINC Projects so someone may chime in.
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Message 96 - Posted: 6 Feb 2017, 23:54:44 UTC

This project might like to liaise with some of the 24 projects that currently have badges that display on the signature http://signature.statseb.fr to see how they did it.

It would encourage more users to join the Project I am sure if you had Badges.

Just a thought.

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Message 99 - Posted: 7 Feb 2017, 11:03:01 UTC - in response to Message 43.  

Any ideas how the badges should look? I plan to add badges for 100, 1000 and 10000 discovered amicable pairs.
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Message 102 - Posted: 8 Feb 2017, 2:12:11 UTC

Badges for both total credit and pairs discovered would be good enough imo :D
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Message 135 - Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 14:28:05 UTC

My opinion:

Boinc badges: (the ribbons) - nobody cares. They come and go.

Credit badges: Each user has one badge per application the project offers, starting at some minimum level. (In this case, right now, one app, so one badge.) The color of the badge changes with the number of credits. Be sure to leave room at the top for expansion, because some people will accrue more credits than you ever thought possible. For the "standard" colors used, see all the other projects, but I think PrimeGrid has the right idea. The colors should be different enough to be identifiable; on a couple of projects, I can't tell at a glance if that one is bronze or gold or some color they picked to give for ten bazillion credits. Note that PrimeGrid had to change the shape of the badge when they ran out of colors!

Achievement badges: Nice idea, not sure about application. If someone finds 100 pairs today and gets a badge, is that badge replaced later when they find 1000, or do they get another badge? I personally would replace not add to - Asteroids "adds to" (on credits even!) and it is annoying. For a project like this though, an achievement badge really would mean something. I'd concentrate on this one first! (Although for the average user, the credit badge will be a lot more understandable.)

There are some who just want a huge number of badges for a sig. I'd rather have meaningful badges. To me, my one single badge from WuProp (and obviously what colors it has) means more than getting a dozen from some other project just for showing up.
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Message 154 - Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 11:58:07 UTC

I think just a total credit badge for the project would be good. That's all it takes to draw in us badge whores. What small symbol, that is not too complicated, would best represent Amicable Numbers? Decide that, then use the same color scheme as PrimeGrid. Of course, with a GPU app, you may need to extend the badge system using something similar to the PrimeGrid shield level of badges.
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Message 158 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 0:38:28 UTC - in response to Message 154.  

What do you mean, badge whores? :)
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Message 159 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 1:27:49 UTC - in response to Message 158.  
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What do you mean, badge whores? :)


Yeah, what could he possibly mean? :)
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Message 160 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 2:29:04 UTC - in response to Message 159.  

What do you mean, badge whores? :)

Yeah, what could he possibly mean? :)

Pbbbth!
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Message 161 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 3:26:42 UTC

Maybe silly question: Don't know how hard it would be to have the badge just be "31AN" (I've discovered 31 right now) in a circle? That seems more meaningful on THIS project than credits would be; and would be an instant comparison, unlike "100", which would be shared by everybody with 100-999 pairs. I just have no idea how difficult it would be to update the badge every time someone discovered a new pair; obviously the user page updates, since mine is showing 31... or how crazy the sig sites would go with the badges changing that often... If you had to create a different jpeg file for every possible number of pairs "up front", that obviously wouldn't work, it'd have to be done on-the-fly.

If it's simpler to do the credit badge, so be it. I'm not picky, just wanting something "different" that isn't obnoxious. I REALLY like the simplicity of the new TN-Grid badges, for example. PrimeGrid's are boring, but make sense for them because they have so many applications.

Sigh. I'll do it... my puny little badge collection: (TN-Grid's is the one on the far right.)
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Message 162 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 7:54:18 UTC - in response to Message 161.  
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Technically it's possible, but it will bring a huge load to the server - it will have to generate all images on the fly every time they're requested. Caching is possible of course, but it will still be worse than with static images. Another concern: badges that change every time you discover a new amicable number kind of diminish the sense of achievement compared to fixed "100-1,000-10,000 discovered numbers" badges, don't they?
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Message 163 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 15:10:56 UTC - in response to Message 162.  

I'd vote for fixed plateaus on the badges. It gives incentive to the users to strive for the next level. Just don't make the levels so high that it is virtually impossible for the average user to ever obtain them. There are some projects that once you get to 5M credits the next level is 50M and that is virtually impossible for the average user to achieve.
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Message 164 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 16:23:33 UTC - in response to Message 162.  

Technically it's possible, but it will bring a huge load to the server - it will have to generate all images on the fly every time they're requested. Caching is possible of course, but it will still be worse than with static images. Another concern: badges that change every time you discover a new amicable number kind of diminish the sense of achievement compared to fixed "100-1,000-10,000 discovered numbers" badges, don't they?

You can get inspired by this
https://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/forum_thread.php?id=2083&postid=4771#4771
With thresholds it's simpler
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Message 165 - Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 19:06:37 UTC - in response to Message 159.  

What do you mean, badge whores? :)


Yeah, what could he possibly mean? :)

You guys are just shameful
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Message 168 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 14:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 164.  

Technically it's possible, but it will bring a huge load to the server

You can get inspired by this
https://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/forum_thread.php?id=2083&postid=4771#4771
With thresholds it's simpler


Thresholds it is - no point in loading down the server. The drug discovery badges are nice looking, but I don't care for their thresholds;
10k
100k
1000k
50000k
250000k
1000000k
10000000k
100'000'000k

That just doesn't make sense... 10/100/1000/10,000/100,000/1,000,000/10,000,000 etc would be better than seemingly random "steps" there in the middle, but of course it all depends on the difficulty. If, say, reaching 1000 is "easy" but reaching 10,000 is "hard" (harder than the "10x time" would imply), then you stick in a 5,000 level. But then for consistency you should have a 500 and a 50,000 and a 500,000...

I'm new here and haven't done the research to know this difficulty - I've now found 49 in just a couple of non-dedicated host/days, which seems to have been very "easy". If that holds linearly, then you don't need as many steps, but you do need higher and higher levels... I guess the simple thing there is just to keep looking at your top producer and try to keep up! :-)

Badges are only annoying if you are "stuck" at a certain level for a very long time. Balancing that against the "new badge every day" projects is the trick.
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Message 169 - Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 19:55:42 UTC - in response to Message 168.  
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10k
100k
1000k
50000k
250000k
1000000k
10000000k
100'000'000k



Badges are only annoying if you are "stuck" at a certain level for a very long time. Balancing that against the "new badge every day" projects is the trick.


Those thresholds they chose are ridiculous! Once you have the 1M badge (I do) the next step in line is 50M. The average user will NEVER get to that level and if they do the level after that is 250M. Even the BIG boys would have to dedicate their 100s of machine to that full time for months.

The object of the badges is to give the "average" user incentive to continue working a project because with some more effort they can change the their badge and feel they've accomplished something. It gives them something to work for. The levels don't have to be easy, but they do need to be reachable for the average user.

As you stated, it is frustrating to be "stuck" at a level forever. Personally, I'll run DrugDiscovery when they come out with a new sub-project just to get 100 hours worth for WuProp stars. I'll also probably run it for challenges. But there is no way I'm going to sit on the project long enough to hit 50M. If DD reduced their badge levels by a factor of 10 then it would be better for them (and the users).

The badge a day projects you mention, besides POGs, what other project does that?

IMHO opinion of course :)
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Message 173 - Posted: 22 Feb 2017, 7:16:13 UTC - in response to Message 169.  

The badge a day projects you mention, besides POGs, what other project does that?

IMHO opinion of course :)


Pogs is the one I had in mind; since I don't "do" but 20 or so projects, and I see others that have done many, many more, I assumed there were others. Odd thing about Pogs, (or maybe it's just that I get my sig from Free-DC?) I've got a half-mil or so Pogs credits, but no badges... I don't even see any for me on THEIR site though, at least not at a glance... I've never worried about it, because if I DID have a bunch of those ugly monstrosities, I'd be asking how to get RID of them! I've seen sigs that have dozens of them.

Your sig only shows one - THAT, I could live with. What that one MEANS (yours is "Sc" at the moment, Scandium) I have no clue. Even Statseb doesn't say, and I'm too lazy to hunt it down on Pogs site. But yeah, they have so many, seeing them just says "oh, he/she runs Pogs" but doesn't instantly tell me "how much". That's why I've gone to putting my only 'badge' emphasis on WuProp. I will never have 20 stars (or want them) but I know at a glance just what it takes to get the three I've got, and I know what colors I want those three to be next! I just fought like crazy to get mine green, red, and gold for Christmas. Missed by two months. Sob! (The hard one was the gold! I don't run many projects.)

To at least make a token 'touch' of the topic of the thread, I think Ami is heading the right direction. :-)
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Message 178 - Posted: 22 Feb 2017, 14:43:40 UTC - in response to Message 173.  
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The badge a day projects you mention, besides POGs, what other project does that?

IMHO opinion of course :)


Pogs is the one I had in mind; since I don't "do" but 20 or so projects, and I see others that have done many, many more, I assumed there were others. Odd thing about Pogs, (or maybe it's just that I get my sig from Free-DC?) I've got a half-mil or so Pogs credits, but no badges... I don't even see any for me on THEIR site though, at least not at a glance... I've never worried about it, because if I DID have a bunch of those ugly monstrosities, I'd be asking how to get RID of them! I've seen sigs that have dozens of them.

Your sig only shows one - THAT, I could live with. What that one MEANS (yours is "Sc" at the moment, Scandium) I have no clue. Even Statseb doesn't say, and I'm too lazy to hunt it down on Pogs site. But yeah, they have so many, seeing them just says "oh, he/she runs Pogs" but doesn't instantly tell me "how much". That's why I've gone to putting my only 'badge' emphasis on WuProp. I will never have 20 stars (or want them) but I know at a glance just what it takes to get the three I've got, and I know what colors I want those three to be next! I just fought like crazy to get mine green, red, and gold for Christmas. Missed by two months. Sob! (The hard one was the gold! I don't run many projects.)

To at least make a token 'touch' of the topic of the thread, I think Ami is heading the right direction. :-)


The pogs badge you are referring to is a total credit badge. As noted, there are many other "special" badges.
At the statseb sig site you can easily modify your signature to show as many or as few of your accumulated badges as you prefer. Simply log in, click on customize my signature, then the modify tab, then select formatting. There you can select/deselect which badges are shown.

You can see your pogs badges here as well as which galaxies you've helped process etc. The site requires registration but tinfoil hats are easy to make ;)

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